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Uranium Weapons - Does anyone care about our planet? (Part 5)

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Earth_in_cupped_hand3August 20, 2009 (Pal Telegraph)-  We all fully understand how Low Level Radiation (LLR) Particles are formed and how they drift around the world. We also know that such particles can be rained out of the atmosphere and fall to earth to contaminate the land, crops and water.

So let's now look in more detail at the health implications associated with the inhalation of these aerosols (nanoparticles).The many authorities will tell you that Depleted Uranium (DU) is harmless and is similar to normal natural background radiation.

However DU is not natural; it is the waste product of the nuclear industry and frequently contains traces of plutonium, other transuranics or trace amounts of various isotopes. As one can clearly see, DU cannot be compared to normal background radiation!

 

How can Low Level Radiation (LLR) enter your body and what are the implications?

 

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As you can see from the diagram there are different ways DU/LLR can enter the body. On this diagram, you can see a DU fragment such as shrapnel wound (right shoulder). DU dust can also enter this wound, which adda to the problem.The most complicated of all is the inhalation of nanoparticle aerosols of DU/LLR.

Insoluble DU particles deposited in the respiratory bronchioles and alveoli will be cleared much more slowly, and, therefore, would be expected to deliver a higher radiation dose to the lung from alpha radiation. Once DU/LLR has entered the blood and irreversible cycle commences. The tissues in our bodies filter out the depleted uranium particles from the blood and cause a web of diseases called "Gulf War Syndrome". I will return to this syndrome in Part 6.

Unfortunately the UNEP, WHO, ICRP, IAEA, Governments, DOD's and many other authorities (not forgetting the pharmaceutical industry) have failed to understand the health implications when DU/LLR is inhaled into the body. They have together concocted a trail of deceit and failed in their duty of care to protect the world's populations.

We are looking at dramatic increases in many forms of cancer, diabetes, and infertility. Because DU/LLR directly attacks the genetics of our body via our DNA, we are now witnessing terrible birth defects in babies. Leuren Moret covered this aspect in my previous article when she said:

"Uranium and phosphate structures have a strong chemical affinity for each other. The DNA and the mitochondria are phosphate rich and, therefore, there is a strong attraction between uranium, the DNA and the mitochondria. Once the uranium has attached to the DNA and or the mitochondria, it does damage from the chemical heavy metal effect, the radioactivity released and the particulate effect.  The greatest damage from radiation exposure is to the unborn foetus and this genetic damage is passed on to all future generations. Basically, uranium exposure is a slow painful death from long lingering illnesses".

Let's look at diabetes as an example. The IMVA article, "DNA and Mitochondrial Time Bomb," covered this aspect extremely well.

The Centers of Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta declares that
33% of the babies born this year will be diabetic by the year 2050.
Dr. Alan Cantwell

Diabetes, which is expanding almost exponentially in the world today, can in part be traced to the increasing radiation to which we are all being exposed. Every physician knows that radiation can lead to cancer, but making a connection between depleted uranium (DU) and diabetes seems ludicrous at first glance, but it is not. Most medical doctors have never heard of this, but neither have they paid attention.

Unfortunately, exposure levels are increasing dramatically with each ton of vaporized depleted uranium. This, however,  is not stopping the American and British governments from manufacturing, selling and using depleted uranium weaponry.  "Depleted (DU) uranium is highly toxic to humans, both chemically as a heavy metal and radiological as an alpha particle emitter, is very dangerous when taken internally," writes Dr. Rosalie Bertell, Canadian Epidemiologist. A new study, conducted by biochemist Dr. Diane Stearns at Northern Arizona University confirms that, separate from any radiation risks, cells exposed to uranium will bond with the metal chemically. Uranium and phosphate have a strong chemical affinity for each other and the DNA and Mitochondria are loaded with phosphate, so uranium is a DNA and Mitochondria deep penetration bomb.

In this same report, a very stern message was given to governments and authorities: "As it is with the autism epidemic, the medical establishment and the government are stonewalling investigations and understanding of the runaway train that diabetes is fast becoming. We are officially recognizing the tragedy of skyrocketing diabetes rates in adults and children but the multiple causes are being ignored and so treatments are not appropriate and prevention efforts a joke. What we have to see clearly is that diabetes is actually an extremely serious warning to civilization, it is an announcement that the rising tide of radiation, mercury, other deadly chemicals and pharmaceutical drugs are poisoning humanity".

As we have seen more recently (Lebanon 2006 and Gaza 2007/8), the US is still providing Israel with weapons containing uranium components that hide under their new title "Conventional Weapons." I can assure you that these weapons are certainly not conventional and really fit into the category of "Dirty Weapons." Dr Chris Busby has received samples from both of above locations confirming the use of both depleted and enriched weapons by the IDF.

We now see a rise in diabetes and cancers, etc., in Northern Israel and soon that same story will be repeated in Central and Southern Israel.  This basically means that "Israelis are killing Israelis," as well as the populations in adjacent countries and the world.

If one reads some of the work carried out by Dr Chris Busby you will see that he was the first person in the UK to spill the beans on the increased levels of radiation that had gathered over England as a direct result of the "Shock and Haw" attack on Baghdad. He has connected the everyday radiation exposure to modern ailments we see today. He was quoted as saying: "There have been tremendous increases in diseases resulting from the breakdown of the immune system in the last 20 years: diabetes, asthma, AIDS and others which may have an immune-system link, such as MS and ME. A whole spectrum of neurological conditions of unknown origin has developed."

Leuren Moret has been very critical of the ICRP Model, which in her opinion (and I might add many other experts) has grossly underestimated the effects of DU/LLR on the body by anything between 100 - 1000 times.  The following is an extract from a specialists report which included Keith Baverstock World Health Organization European Centre for Environment and Health. "The risk to the lung of exposure to DU dusts cannot be inferred from the experience gained from uranium miners, or from survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, upon which the current ICRP radiological protection standards are based."

The report went on to say that it has been convincingly demonstrated that changes, similar to those caused directly by irradiation, can be wrought in cells growing close to a cell that has been irradiated. The implication of the combined chemical and radiological transforming capability of uranium and the bystander effect, means that, in estimating its significance in causing cancer, the simple assumptions, based on committed effective dose would be an inadequate basis for predicting risks.  That is, committed absorbed dose to the lung, modified by a radiation weighting factor for the fact that the radiation arises from alpha particles.  This has been adopted in recent reports by the Royal Society (RS 2001), the WHO (WHO 2001) and UNEP (UNEP 2001).  Baverstock was a very experienced expert who worked for the WHO. Because of the sensitivity of Baverstock's report, the article was suppressed and withheld from public viewing.

The UN, WHO, ICRP, IAEA, Governments, DOD's and NATO etc. still fail to accept that DU/LLR is extremely dangerous (especially when inhaled). Perhaps they should be referred to the people who carried out the US Army training programmes. People like Major Doug Rokke whose credits covered a broad range of expertise, namely U.S. Army Medical Command's Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical (NBC) teaching, medical response, and special operations team - U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Assessment team during Gulf War 1(Operation Desert Storm) and U.S. Army's Depleted Uranium Project director from 1994 - 1995. He developed the congressionally mandated education and training materials and wrote U.S. Army Regulation 700-48, the U.S. Army PAM 700-48, and the U.S. Army's common task for DU incidents. Doug knows intimately how dangerous DU is when he himself became a victim to this terrible illness.

Let's look at another expert in the training area who had direct links with the DOD and US Army. How can the respective DOD's and Senior Military Officers play down the risk from DU when they themselves send in experts to carry out the training of combatants? U.S. Army Reserve Col. J. Wakayama. Col Wakayam (Office of the Secretary of Defense - Director of Training - Combat Support) gave an official slide presentation at Fort Belvoir, Va. on the 20th of August 2002. In which he read out the dangers of exposure to DU. Here are some of those dangers that he highlighted: DU causes - Lung cancer, cell damage, targets the kidneys and bone, the cultured human stem bone cell with DU also transformed the cells to become carcinogenic, urine samples containing uranium are mutagenic, DU can be deposited in the bone causing DNA damage, long term respiratory effects such as lung fibrosis, immune deficiency, extra risk of leukaemia and other cancers. He put a great emphasis on the risks to children playing in the rubble/dust and also talked about the damage to the environment i.e. soil, water etc. Tell that to the children playing in the rubble of the Balkans, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Gaza and now Pakistan!

In addition to the evidence provided so far, lets finally pay a visit to the US Governments own website and this extremely interesting PubMed Journal. I have no doubt that our so called science correspondent (agents) that attack such press releases will again repeat those eternally boring quotes "Provide Scientific Evidence;" "If you want the truth look to the scientific literature;" "Check peer-reviewed abstracts;" and, "ignore peer-reviewed science" etc. I am sure that all readers will agree that the evidence provided so far is extremely accurate and convincing. Character Assassination by such people as Helbig and Lamb is like water of a ducks back, both of whom show no compassion towards the many thousands war vets or innocent civilians that have fallen victim to uranium based weapons. These badly informed "Imbeciles" have no place in this world and have truly lost their direction in life.

The title of this document is, "Teratogenicity of depleted uranium aerosols: A review from an epidemiological perspective."  It was written by Rita Hindinm, Biostatistics and Epidemiology Concentration, University of Massachusetts School of Public Health and Health Sciences, Amherst, MA, USA 01003; Doug Brugge, Department of Public Health and Family Medicine, Tufts University School of Medicine, 136 Harrison Ave., Boston, MA, USA 02111; and, Bindu Panikkar, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Tufts School of Engineering, 200 College Avenue, Anderson Hall, Medford, MA, USA 02155.

They first introduce DU as follows: "It has pyrophoric properties and may spontaneously ignite at room temperature in air, oxygen and water. These unique properties make it appealing for use in many civilian and military applications". As we have already discussed, its use covers almost every weapon in some form or another namely Bullets, Penetrators, Missile nose cones, Bomb and Shell shaped charged liners (SCL's) or to act as a counterbalance. It must also be noted that DU also contains traces of Plutonium and other Isotopes. If one wishes to further extend the abuse of the nuclear waste industry, we can add to that list Enriched Uranium (EU). Basically we are looking at dirty missiles, dirty bombs, dirty shells and dirty bullets that contain such components.

The report goes on to say that the quantity of aerosol production is relative to the hardness of the target and generally is around 10-35% and up to 70% when the DU catches fire (which in normally does). It also states that the initial fallout area is around 26 miles and, as we have already discussed, the aerosol has the capacity to travel vast distances. Once deposited on the ground the aerosols settle as partially oxidized DU dust. Potential contamination of ground water is another possibility- weathering could mobilize the metal into additional media.

On the health/medical side of DU the report states, "Alpha radiation is only hazardous when internalized in the body, but once deposited in living tissue it releases energy in a concentrated area causing greater damage than beta or gamma radiation.  Large quantities of DU and/or radioactive decay products and other radioactive impurities can lead to substantial external exposure".

Their evidence became even more compelling when it revealed that a DU tank found by the U.S Army radiological team emitted 260 - 270 millirads of radiation per hour compared to the safety limit of 100 millirads per year. A pile of jet-black dust registered a count of 9839 emissions in one minute, a level more than 300 times the average background level.

At this point we should also make it very clear that persons attending such contaminated locations are not protected by the conventional protective clothing, especially gasmasks as they only screen out larger particles. With DU aerosols we are talking about something the size of 0.1 microns. I think it was ironic that in many of the military briefs it quoted that in the event you did not have a gasmask one could use a tissue or other items of clothing to screen your inhalation of DU Dust!

The article warns, "Trends toward increased use of DU by industry and, more recently, in warfare suggest that there are large and growing numbers of exposed people worldwide, both at production sites and in areas where DU weapons are deployed. While there is no clear basis for estimating the number of people who have been breathing and ingesting food and water in areas contaminated with aerosolized DU particles, the ever-expanding exposure of humans and the environment to DU particles, several micrometer and smaller, mobile and inhalable, necessitates a sense of urgency to better understand this hazard".

They further point out that, "inhalation is the main route of human exposure both in combat and non-combat situations. Once inhaled, DU particles <5 μm can lodge deep in the lung in alveoli and can be transported by macrophages to the lymph tissues. Thereupon, live tissue immediately adjacent to (or exposed to these) imbedded particles experience infrequent but high LET alpha irradiation along with the potential for chemical toxicity. Because the micro-particles of DU are much larger than individual solubilized molecules, they can create "hot spots" of localized alpha radiation, while insoluble forms generally takes months to years to be absorbed. DU is organotropic and has long-term retention in its target organs, to wit the kidney and the skeletal tissue. The biological retention capability of DU in bones enhances the particulate radiation to the target organs."

This report draws attention to "biodistribution studies detail DU accumulation in the bone, kidney, reproductive system, brain and lung with verified nephrotoxic, genotoxic, mutagenic and carcinogenic properties, as well as reproductive and teratogenic alterations".  For my part, we can clearly see that evidence just keep stacking up against those authorities that continue to evade the issue of DU and continue to state it is safe!

The same document drew attention to research carried out.  Most of the past 15 years of published research on the topic comes from two groups, Domingo, and others working at the University of Barcelona in Spain and McClain, Benson, Miller, Pellmar and others affiliated with the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute (AFRRI) in the United States. With at least 6 published studies on the topic, Domingo et al., they have demonstrated that both oral and subcutaneous administration of UO2++ to female mice engender decreased fertility, embryonic and fetal toxicity including reduced growth and malformations (cleft palate and skeletal defects) and developmental ossification variations.

A Chinese study of reproductive toxicity of enriched uranium noted damage to genetic material, dominant lethality and skeletal abnormalities in fetal rats. Chromosome aberrations in spermatogonia, DNA alterations in spermatocytes and strand breakage in sperm were specifically notified. In vitro experiments documented extensive DNA damage when UO2++ was added to DNA in the presence of an electron donor. Since DNA is particularly dense in sperm-forming cells, such cells may be especially susceptible to UO2++-derived damage. In sum, aerosolized DU is a vehicle for internal delivery of a DNA-tropic substance that is both a heavy metal and an alpha particle emitter.

DU_Victimes2

Made and Manufactured in the USA

This report fits into the category as an internationally recognised journal and is substantiated in the fact that it is published on the US Government Webpage.

The report puts a strong emphasis on the experience drawn up in Iraq with particular reference to Basra who bore the brunt of DU weaponry. That must also be said for Baghdad who suffered the deluge of "Shock and Haw". The birth defects in Iraq is beyond imagination and given the half shelf life of DU (4.5 billion years) this problem will not go away....it will be passed down from generation to generation and that is why the authorities will not admit to this gross crime against humankind. The genetics of the Balkans, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Gaza and Pakistan is at risk and obviously because these aerosols do not respect international borders the problem is fast become a global issue, as statistics are now showing. In the case of Lebanon and Gaza the term what goes around comes around resulted in cross border contamination of Israel (Israelis killing Israelis).

Finally to bring us up to the current time, the reports bring even more damaging news regarding DU's capability.:  "Uranium travels nerves from nose to brain," (Environmental Health News dated 31st July 2009) Tournier, BB, S Frelon, E Tourlonias, L Agez, O Delissen, I Dublineau, F Paquet, and F Petitot. 2009; "Role of the olfactory receptor neurons in the direct transport of inhaled uranium to the rat brain," Toxicology Letters doi:10.1016/j.toxlet.2009.05.022.

Synopsis by Paul Eubig, DVM:  The report states radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain. Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.

This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system - bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier - to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route. Military personnel and people who work in uranium processing plants are exposed to the weak radioactive element via wounds or by breathing. Exposure may affect brain function; cognitive skills are lowered in soldiers who carry uranium-laced shrapnel.

The researchers - taking advantage of the fact that uranium can exist in different forms, or isotopes - used rats to compare how the element travels through the body if it is inhaled or injected into the blood. The animals breathed in one isotope at levels similar to those encountered on a battlefield where depleted uranium weapons are used. They were also injected with a different isotope. Researchers compared the levels of the two isotopes in different regions of the brain. The inhaled isotope accumulated at 2 to 3 times higher levels than the injected isotope in the olfactory (smell) paths from the nose to the brain and in the frontal cortex and hypothalamus of the brain. This is concerning because the front part of the brain controls executive function, which is the broad ability to gather information, make decisions and initiate action.  The scientists then chemically damaged the olfactory nerves in the nose. The rats with the damaged nerves had three times less uranium in the olfactory system than the rats with intact olfactory nerves. These finding suggests that inhaled uranium can travel directly from the nose along the olfactory nerves to the front of the brain. The olfactory pathway, then, plays an important role in inhaled uranium reaching the brain.

It is not known from this study if soldiers and civilian workers that breathe uranium could be at an even higher risk for cognitive effects or if inhaled uranium may affect brain function in similar ways as when it is carried through the blood. The scientists then chemically damaged the olfactory nerves in the nose. The rats with the damaged nerves had three times less uranium in the olfactory system than the rats with intact olfactory nerves. These finding suggests that inhaled uranium can travel directly from the nose along the olfactory nerves to the front of the brain. The olfactory pathway, then, plays an important role in inhaled uranium reaching the brain. It is not known from this study if soldiers and civilian workers that breathe uranium could be at an even higher risk for cognitive effects or if inhaled uranium may affect brain function in similar ways as when it is carried through the blood.

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DU Explosion

What I find most disturbing is the fact that the US, UK, NATO and Israel are still using these weapons on a daily basis, not only in action but also in training exercises and on firing ranges around the globe. Israel currently has a stockpile of such weaponry ready to strike Iran. Add to this another possible attack on Lebanon or Gaza and we can see the absolute end to the genetics of the entire regional populations.

The US and Israel have been contemplating an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities for some time but do they fully understand the implications? Do they fully understand that to use uranium based weapons on a nuclear facility will have catastrophic effects on the entire Middle East and the world? Do they worry? Of course not, after all they say that DU is safe like everyday background radiation! Tell that to your grandchildren! Tell that to the people of Iraq who have had their country contaminated and its population exposed to a catastrophic health risk. That is the difference between a government's theoretical approach to DU and the practical experience of doctors and experts who have to deal with their deeply flawed methods out in the theatres of war.

 

Peter Eyre, Middle East Consultant 15th August 2009

 



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Lawrence  - Mr   |65.102.187.xxx |2009-08-20 16:16:42
Well now we come to the end of the line, wake up people, it's over we've screwed everything up now
it's time to pay. God will save us? Shit..If there was a god this wouldn't happen in the first
place. This planet is a labratory, an experiment. there have been 5 Mass extinctions, we're number
six Don't pray ..clean up your own personal space and go with a clear heart and
mind.........Goodbye All
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.150.xxx |2009-08-20 19:17:05
As I have previously commented the LMVA is not a reliable source of information. It is a
pseudo-science site that is pushing magnesium chloride as a remedy for all the world’s ails.
Uranium and mercury are blamed for all manner of ills, without any basis. Using a common
pseudo-science tactic, familiar and alarming statistics are cited and then interspersed with totally
baseless ‘opinions’. There is not a single reference to connect uranium to diabetes. Yet the
site appears to be well referenced. Moret uses the same style and tactics in her shockingly
misleading articles, also with deceitful abuse of statistics.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.150.xxx |2009-08-20 19:17:29
IMVA peddles sodium bicarbonate and magnesium chloride to ‘cure’ diseases including cancer.
Shamefully preying on the vulnerable to buy into their alternative medicine and buy their books. For
meaningless statements: “Though allopathic medicine likes to define everything, including water as
toxic or as a poison, there are in reality certain medicinal substances, including water, that have
no side effects even at high doses.”
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.150.xxx |2009-08-20 19:18:39
The photographs have been peddled around campaign groups for more than a decade, these recycled
medical photos have been used in shameful propaganda. Yet no one can show where they came from, or
point to any evidence that they were exposed to depleted uranium. Any suggestion Peter, or you just
accepted them at face value?
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.150.xxx |2009-08-20 19:19:08
Another factual error: 5 μm particles are highly unlikely to make it passed the human larynx, and
will be cleared to digestive tract. Hindin, Bugge and Panikkar is a highly subjective article in
which the authors contribute nothing to science except opinion.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 18:14:57
Doyle et al 2006 is a more scientific review of the epidemiological studies of Gulf War Veterans
children. They concluded that there was no increase in birth defects, and published in a more
credible journal. Hindin et al accepted some dubious health stats from Iraq and assumed a connection
to DU without any evidence. Their article reads like an opinion piece, their conclusions were not
justified.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.150.xxx |2009-08-20 19:31:22
Please read my comments to Peter’s previous articles. I have shown his articles are consistently
inaccurate and highly biased. He presents little except baseless propaganda regurgitated from
campaign activists pushing political agendas. No evidence of DU in Gaza and no evidence of harm from
DU anywhere. I have previously justified my criticism of Durakovic, Busby, Bertell, and Moret.
Individuals who are hailed as DU experts, but have few credentials to offer, have made a series of
misleading claims, and deceitfully present their opinions as research. Shame on them.
Stephen P. Coyle  - Communications Technician/ AKA Cryptographic   |98.15.239.xxx |2009-08-21 01:54:06
Instead of just reading comments about Depleted Uranium it is necessary to spend time researching
the use and dangers of DU. Use discretion in everything found on these searches since there are
agendas on many of the sites found. As a USNR veteran I found the Google video by Doug Rokke as
being the most believable along with many other hits from my www.metacrawler.com search engine and
the thousands from a google search using the term "Depleted Uranium Dangers" and
"depleted uranium dangers by Doug Rokke" It is very clear to me that Peter Eyre has
articles that are as close to the truth as they can get while it is also obvious that there is
something deeply unsettling in the way Nigel Lamb tries to prove his points. They at first seem
valid but when looking at the preponderance of information of Depleted Uranium dangers his
information is missleading. There is definately an inclination to a personal agenda due to some
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 18:08:30
I’m just frustrated that after almost ten years these charlatans have failed to substantiate any
of their ludicrous claims, but they keep putting out their propaganda. Try searching the scientific
literature, you’ll find little to support Peter’s articles.
Pierre Frankfurt  - Who is Nigel Lamb and where does he live?   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-21 03:38:39
We appear to have our comments section flooded with this mans pro depleted uranium spin. As I have
already stated the corporate sector here in Germany would fail DU in any of its Health and Safety
risk assessments based on the physical evidence provided in a post war environment. I note that Lamb
is extremely slow to respond to such articles which would indicate that he himself may be an agent
and has to consult either Mossad or the CIA for a suitable response. Or maybe I should give him the
benefit of doubt and accept that he lives in West Coast US which could possible explain the delay
sequence? So what are you and where are you Mr Lamb?
snooker  - Lamb cannot answer   |207.200.116.xxx |2009-08-21 04:50:15
When we ask him to show his credentials yet he continues to attack people with real credentials.
Lamb, surveys show that when people study the issue of DU, about 95% of them oppose these weapons,
why, because Occam's Razor makes it obvious that spreading fine radioactive smoke in the environment
--described in the Groves Memo of 1943--is an insane killing of the planet. Some truly crazy
people of course always dwell in the five per cent that don't get it.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:23:46
As I have said before, you would drown in DU dust before approaching the doses alluded to in the
Grove’s memo. They soon realised radiological weapons are more harmful to their own troops. The
soviets also trialled them and concluded the same after their own soldiers received lethal doses.
What surveys are you referring to? I could believe that of the public, that’s why they are such
easy prey for your propaganda. DU isn’t safe, why take the risks if you don’t understand them or
appreciate the benefits?
snooker  - Radio to base: "Roger, over and out"   |207.200.116.xxx |2009-08-21 05:19:29
Just take the case of someone out there who is totally misleading who pretends that a credentialed
experienced person in the Pentagon's key role on DU health issues like Dr. Durakovic cannot be
accepted as expert about the Pentagon and DU!!! Dr. Doug Rokke developed the Pentagon's training
films on DU, but the Pentagon feared business would end if troops had to be protected from DU.
Plus they now owe disability to hundreds of thousands of vets for GWS caused by DU. Someone makes
a fool of himself pursuing the truth rebellion. That someone with no credentials, with a yahoo news
alert set on "DU"
snooker   |207.200.116.xxx |2009-08-21 05:34:05
As for the photos of the children mutated into monsters by DU exposure, I recognize those from Dr.
Miraki as real and they are not identical nor taken fromany medical literature. Lamb, produce
evidence of forgery, or shut up . Dr. Miraki went to Afghanistan as a concerned Afghan after the
USA illegally bombed with DU in their falseflag phony terror war. You should read the Afghan
villagers' testimony in Lloya Jirgas in 2003 about what US depleted uranium munitions did to them.
It is pretty obvious what Lamb (sic)'s agenda is and for whom..
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 17:53:55
The problem with horrowing photos is that they do not show the cause. No medical testing has been
done to connect these birth defects to DU, it is entirely false to assume that DU was the cause.
They make great propaganda value, but show nothing. A number of photos have been circulated by
anti-DU activists. They were recycled or forged for Sadam’s anti-sanctions propaganda programmed.
I therefore doubt these are what you claim them to be.
Peter Eyre  - Is US Army inaccurate & Highly Biased?   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-21 11:05:06
Lamb said nothing about the US Army Office of the Secretary of Defense - Director of Training -
Combat Support who gave out the dangers of DU exposure: DU causes - Lung cancer, cell damage,
targets the kidneys and bone, the cultured human stem bone cell with DU also transformed the cells
to become carcinogenic, urine samples containing uranium are mutagenic, DU can be deposited in the
bone causing DNA damage, long term respiratory effects such as lung fibrosis, immune deficiency,
extra risk of leukaemia & other cancers. But then again I forgot he doesnt identify miliatry
experts! You are just another Regev..spin spin and more spin!!
Peter Eyre  - What about Dr. Diane Stearns Opinion   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-21 15:20:02
Would Mr Lamb (our DU expert) approve of Dr Stearns (Peer Read) Review? most likely not because they
reveal the dangers associated with DU...why you may ask? because. Lamb (not his real name) is an
agent working for the government and the Pro DU lobby. I have put before him two credible names that
prove that DU is certainly not safe but no doubt he will once go running to his superiors to concoct
another absurd reply. I think it would be better for him to join Regev's team as they have much more
experience!!
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 17:59:13
You need evidence not opinions. Her laboratory research does not quantify the risk from battlefield
DU exposure.
Peter Eyre  - Would Keith Baverstock be acceptable Mr Lamb?   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-21 15:32:14
Has anyone noticed that Mr Lamb never passes comment on those experts I have mentioned associated
with the Military, Academic Institutions or even the WHO....but then again one of WHO Senior Members
of Staff would not qualify to pass comment on the dangers of DU because Mr Lamb is much more
qualified. So maybe he doesnt know this highly qualified expert?...Keith Keith Baverstock served as
radiation scientist and regional adviser at the European Regional Office of the WHO (World Health
Organization) during 1991-2003. He co-authored a WHO report warning about the longterm effects of DU
on human health....this report was suppressed by the WHO..I wonder why!!......I would suggest you go
back to your rocking chair and stop trying to be an agent!
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 18:03:44
Wonder all you like, but the majority of the WHO scientists did not agree with Baverstock. The
conspiracy card is a lazy way of dismissing all of the research that shows DU has nowhere near the
risks you claim.
Peter Eyre  - He also didnt comment on this one...Why?   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-21 15:59:51
At last Mr Lamb you have revealed your distinct lack of accepting quality reports, You have also
made it very clear that you do not have the ability to respond without consulting higher
authority...I can only assume that you yourself are not so well informed. What about your comments
on Tournier, BB, S Frelon, E Tourlonias, L Agez, O Delissen, I Dublineau, F Paquet, and F Petitot
2009 - Role of the olfactory receptor neurons in the direct transport of inhaled uranium to the rat
brain. Toxicology Letters doi:10.1016/j.toxlet.2009.05.022.? Goodbye Mr Lamb I have more to do than
respond to an Imbeciles. The world does not need DU and the same applies to you
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:14:31
It does not support you claims of health effects, just shows an interesting exposure pathway.
jupiter  - Roger and me   |207.200.116.xxx |2009-08-22 05:51:08
"Mayday, wake up and smell the roses" -Larry Moray
It is hard to even imagine someone
imaginery like "Roger" except as a bad cartoon figure, got no credentials living out on the
west coast of the US in the Bay Area, yeah, that's it, desperately boozing all night, a hideous
wife, feudin like a lowlife with the neighbors, and calling up DU protesters with ominous warnings.

I can imagine him messin with the wrong bottle and losing his disinfo job. It is already
too late to recoup his failure to communicate US and Israeli lies effectively to an increasingly
skeptical world public.
Pierre Frankfut  - Its good you found him out   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-23 03:28:06
Jupiter and Peter....I am pleased that you managed to track down this terrible man. The world will
be a better place without him. I became a little suspect when he didnt answer two of my comments and
also noticed that he took a very long time to answer....with him being in the Bay Area really does
explain the delay....I am sure he will come back with another new name but his tactics are well
known now and whoever he becomes he will again be revealed. Keep up the good work
Peter Eyre  - Nigel Lamb is Roger Helbig   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-23 03:20:40
We have always known that Nigel Lamb was really Roger Helbig. He has a very long line of credits to
his name and no doubt when he thinks about the thousands of war vets that he has turned his back on
he grabs for the nearest bottle to ease his guilt. This ex military man is a low life traitor who
time and time again gets caught out when he takes to the bottle. I can still see him sitting there
on his rocking chair with his beloved cat on his knee...pity the cat died they got the wrong
one!
City of Richmond’s Purchasing Division employs this animal maybe you can ring and protest.
or visit 1021 LASSEN. Notice he has not responded? why? because he has to consult the Pentagon or
the CIA when times get tough! Goodbye Mr Helbig/Lamb
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 18:23:17
More unsubstantiated and inaccurate conclusions, but then we’re used to that from Peter. That is a
very unfair character assassination, with some very unpleasant threats against a man who is not even
part of this debate. Roger worked tirelessly exposing the charlatans that exploit the vulnerable and
push their hidden agendas. Now I that know Peter is dishonest and hypocritical, a willing party to
this insidious propaganda.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.58.xxx |2009-08-25 18:28:42
The difference between what I have said and the character assassination that Peter has just made
against Roger, is that I have made justifiable and relevant criticisms of people that claim to be
experts. The DU expert Durakovic with his ludicrous one atom claim. Busby who makes dubious claims
in the media and never follows them up, and fails to scientifically test them. The eminent scientist
Bertell with only 16 publications, including an opinion piece on DU, and her chem. trails nonsense.
Moret who dishonestly presents statistics and cannot find a single reference to support her diabetes
claims. Then Peter and snooker savagely attack the personal life of Roger and makes threats against
him.
Peter Eyre  - Nigel Lamb is neighbour to Roger Helbig   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-24 14:58:01
I did a GPS tag on Nigel Lamb emails and he is in Richmond, California, "so Roger Helbig must
be your neighbor Nigel" "It must be so cosy to have two such astute gentlemen living next
door to each other" obviously you are the same person. Anyone from the War Vets passing by could
call in and say Hi & thank him for his DU support-1021 Lassent St Richmond CA or call # 510-233-8206
or maybe protest outside his workplace Purchasing Division, Richmond City Hall 450 Civic Center
Plaza, Richmond, CA. Either way its time Col Helbig went to church and prayed for his soul to be
saved. Goodbye Nigel/Roger the games over!!
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:10:18
more lies from Peter
Peter Eyre  - Top US Army Director of Training-Dangers of DU   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 05:04:41
I again notice that no comment has been made by the illustrious Mr Lamb/Helbig regarding the US Army
Post Gulf War Training Brief made by a top training expert: Col J. Edgar Wakayama OSD/DOT & E/CS.
This training brief was made after the effects of DU had become known to the US Military which lists
the following:DU causes - Lung cancer, cell damage,targets the kidneys & bone, the cultured human
stem bone cell with DU also transformed the cells
to become carcinogenic, urine samples containing
uranium are mutagenic, DU can be deposited in the bone causing DNA damage, long term respiratory
effects such as lung fibrosis, immune deficiency,extra risk of leukaemia & other cancers.
Peter Eyre  - DU is linked to Brain Damage   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 05:12:44
Tournier, BB, S Frelon, E Tourlonias, L Agez, O Delissen, I Dublineau, F Paquet, and F Petitot 2009
- Role of the olfactory receptor neurons in the direct transport of inhaled uranium to the rat
brain. Toxicology Letters doi:10.1016/j.toxlet.2009.05.022 Refers to the direct link between DU and
the Brain. Oh I forgot our expert does not accept animal tests as evidence only tests carried out on
post war vets! Isnt it amazing that all tests are carried out on animals first and those test
reports appear all over the world in "Peer Read" Journals.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:09:32
Tounier et al. showed DU can travel from the nose to the brain along nerves. They did not observe
any brain damage. Did you read their article, or are you deliberately misleading your readers?
Peter Eyre  - WHO Expert Baverstock   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 05:21:52
Re "the majority of the WHO scientists did not agree with Baverstock" Can you clarify how
you came to know "The Majority" did not agree? Maybe you were employed by WHO at the time &
have inside information that no one else had? As you are as such an articulate expert perhaphs you
could show your source of reference to substantiate your use of such a bold statement...after all
you always ask for good quality references so who were the majority?
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:11:52
Read the WHO report on DU, it does not reflect Baverstocks views.
Peter Eyre  - Mr Lamb sorry Helbig   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 05:41:30
Re"unfair character assassination" Perhaps the public would like to do a search on Col (ret)
Helbig USAF and look at the long line of character assasinations this imbecile has carried out and
how many meeting he has tried to disrupt. We all agree that we are supposed to live in a democratic
society and that people should be allowed to go about their own business and beliefs...so why not
allow other experts to talk on the subject.....we all know why because this is all about the pro DU
group making hug sums of money from the luctrative business of uranium and weapons sales at the
expense of the lives of their own military and civilian lives.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:12:46
Roger has nothing to do with this debate.
Peter Eyre  - Who is Nigel Lamb & Where does he live   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 07:33:48
Lamb/Helbig previously communicated on the 20th August and he always responds in the evening
(morning West Coast US)..why did it take him so long to come back online this time? Did he have
difficulty in responding to good quality evidence and because of his age had to confide with his
secret service superiors? He claims he's not Helbig & yet he comes up as a resident on the West
Coast so how can that be? Ask him to reveal what is his profession? How come he claims to be so
knowledgeable & yet never reveals his own background experience. Is he known to any TV or Radio
Channel? Is he known to any Newspaper? or has anyone in the US every heard of him? the answer is
Helbig yes but Lamb most definitely not.
Nigel Lamb   |94.197.151.xxx |2009-08-26 15:44:16
More lies from Peter. GPS tracks, is that some secret agent techno gadget you have, if so it
doesn’t work. If you must know, I was on holiday, and not in California. This is not about you or
me, I’m not claiming any credentials, my comments speak for themselves. Your job as a journalist
is to write balanced articles. I have no hidden agenda, but I do object to your propaganda pieces.
Nigel Lamb   |94.197.151.xxx |2009-08-26 15:46:18
I mean that the WHO report on DU was a balanced and evidence based investigation, which does not
reflect Baverstock’s views. I never heard of Wakayma, who is he? DU seems to excite Rats, no
evidence of cancers or birth defects though. So how does that support your propaganda?
Peter Eyre  - Dr Durakovic and Prof Busby   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 14:00:30
Dr Durakovic was considered by the US Government as one of the foremost scientists and nuclear
medicine specialist. He served at a Col in the US Army for 14 years followed by running the Army
Nuclear Medicine Clinic at the VA Hospital for 18 years. As he had taken his medical oath to care
for his patients he was not prepared to turn his back on 24 US Gulf War Vets and revealed the truth
behind DU. As one would expect he lost his job. He served his country with great pride unlike Col
Helbig/Lamb who became traitors to the core. You should be tried for war crimes having supported DU
usage
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 15:47:32
Durakovic claimed on CNN that one atom of DU is harmful. Showing that either he is a charlatan
making false claims, or that he is scientifically illiterate. He was never considered a foremost
scientist and he served with the U.S. Army Reserve. Mindful of the cynicism that you have for
military integrity then perhaps they deliberately recruit idiots.
Peter Eyre  - Prof Chris Busby   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-26 14:21:54
Again we see a true professional who can only be described as an outstanding expert who has great
courage of standing up against the establishment to protect the victims of DU. Busby proved that
using the ICRP model it deeply flawed. He stated that the risks from particles of DU that have been
inhaled is probably 100 - 1000 more dangerous than the ICRP model shows. He also went on to say that
when the UNEP went to Afghanistan to carry out test they never did one DU test. The reason given was
that the AFghanistan Government had never asked them. So Mr Helbig/Lamb you really have no crebible
source of reference.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.215.xxx |2009-08-27 16:00:06
I’ll refer you again to the U.K.’s HPA website which gives a full critique of Buby’s
unscientific ECRR report (nothing to do with the European Commission). He used arbitrary and
unjustified multipliers to derive his large numbers. He also misleadingly claims that the ICRP
method is entirely based on acute irradiation of A-bomb survivors. Almost a decade on Busby has
failed to convince the scientific community, it is his ‘research’ that is deeply flawed. As UNEP
found in Kuwait and the Balkans there was little to worry about from DU, therefore it is not a
priority. It is doubtful that much, if any, was used in Afghanistan.
Peter Eyre  - GPS Tracking and where you live in the US   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-27 14:09:01
Any form of communication that is received by any means can be tracked to its point of origin and
yours comes up as California. Again you have not identified your profession or what you do for a
living even though we know that you work for Richmond City so my question would be how come you
claim to know so much about DU when your background is supply? The fact that you do not know one of
the US Army Senior Training Staff also shows your research ability is sub standard! So I again ask
you the question that if this Training Expert says DU is dangerous as highlighted in his brief do
you aceept or not? As an American and an ex Col (ret) USAF you should support your gallant War Vets
and no protect the DU lobby that harmed them.
Peter Eyre  - Why was Baverstock’s Article Supressed   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-27 14:41:08
Why was Baverstock's (One of WHO leading experts) report supressed? Becaused it revealed the truth
resulting in conflict between himself and his seniors.....oh by the way this report was made up by a
team of experts not just one person! Have you ever read that report?...its very professional and
convincing but then again you are much more qualified than Baverstock. What makes you such an
authority to be critical of ever expert that denounces DU? why do you only support all those that
are Pro DU. If there is any element of doubt on the DU issue then it should be investigated by
independent international experts. You are a traitor to America
Peter Eyre  - Mr Lamb/Helbig asked a question!   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-28 03:35:13
Why did he ask the question "I never heard of Wakayma, who is he"..obviously he did not
read the comment correctly which clearly states who he his...so I again repeat his rank and
department - Col J. Edgar Wakayama OSD/DOT & E/CS.
Who gave a brief as follows - DU causes - Lung
cancer, cell damage, targets the kidneys and bone, the cultured human stem bone cell with DU also
transformed the cells to become carcinogenic, urine samples containing uranium are mutagenic, DU can
be deposited in the bone causing DNA damage, long term respiratory effects such as lung fibrosis,
immune deficiency, extra risk of leukaemia & other cancers. How much more evidence does this man
want?
Peter Eyre  - DU was not a problem in Kuwait?   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-30 03:58:03
Again we see our Pro DU lobbyist support the industry that probably pays him....if DU in Kuwait was
not a problem why was the US forced to recover the contaminated subsoil/sand from the Camp Doha
accident where DU munition was stored? Why was around 7.5 tons of this so called safe waste taken
back to the US by ship to be safely buried in the country that caused the contamination? As an
American you are a disgrace to your country and your interllect is debatable.
Again I ask you if
Kuwait was not a problem why were you forced to recover your safe levels of DU?
Peter Eyre  - Still waiting for a reply on Wakayama>   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-30 04:10:50
I notice that our supply expert still has not answer my question ! Does he accept a leading US Army
Training Experts comments that DU is far from safe. Col Wakayama training programme was post Gulf
War and therefore makes my evidence even more convicing. Does he also have anything to say about the
highly contaminated US Army tanks and vehicles that were buried in the Saudi Desert and why were
they buried so hastely? Why were these vehicles not recovered back to the USA as per normal US Army
protocol? Maybe one day the Saudi's will make you recover them!
peacegirl   |207.200.116.xxx |2009-08-30 21:21:46
Many thanks to peter eyre for solving the Nigel/Roger identity. Obviously he has no credentials
because yall asked and asked and he could not come up with anything. No one knows Nigel, everyone
knows Roger and he can no longer use his real name.

Rogerel, you have never seen the public
surveys on how bad your phony message has been received? are you incompetent then? and you can't
even read who Wakayama is? sad
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