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Uranium Weapons - Does Anyone Care About our Planet? (Part 3)

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Earth_from_spaceLondon, August 9, 2009, (Pal Telegraph) - In previous reports I have explained the dangers associated with weapons containing uranium. This can be used in many ways. As a penetrator rod, a Shaped Charged Liner or as a counterweight etc. Whatever the application we know that DU will ignite at 170c.

On behalf of the U.S. Army, Major Doug Rokke led a 434 man depleted uranium clean up team in the first Gulf War. In 1994, he was appointed as depleted uranium project director for the U.S. Army. Despite his warnings of the dangers of DU exposure, both the U.S. army and coalition forces continue to use DU munitions with catastrophic effects on their own troops.

Before going into how the DU contamination spreads around the globe lets again look at what exactly happens when a DU weapon makes contact with its target.

Doug Rokke explains: "Uranium munitions are probably the most effective weapon you're ever going to encounter. These things are the silver bullet. They kill and destroy anything in their path. They are EXTREMELY effective. And what you need to understand, and contrary to what he saw in the media, the DU ground is not coated and it's not tipped. The DU round is solid uranium 238. The M1 tank round is over 10 pounds of solid uranium 238, contaminated with plutonium, neptunium, and americium."

When that 10 pound uranium dart strikes wood, metal, steel, iron, or anything - this thing is already on fire in flight. The uranium is pyrophoric and very soft. Uranium is not hard. It's soft. But the density is unbelievable. Extremely heavy per unit volume. So, you got this uranium dart, that basically three-quarters of an inch in diameter, 18 inches long, moving at better than 3000 feet per second. And when strikes, you have what we call, spalling is formed. About 40 to 50 percent of the dart breaks off and forms spalling [a shotgun effect]. The spalling is uranium fragments. Some of the stuff catches fire. And some of the stuff is just solid uranium. And what you see inside is if I took a handful of BB's and through it across this room, extremely high velocity, everything is on fire and fragments. You have secondary detonations due to concussion and ignition beyond comprehension. And the whole thing is a catastrophic explosion. (Approximately 50 to 70% of the penetrator is burned and forms particles 0.1 micron or smaller).

Leuren Moret is a geoscientist who worked almost around the clock educating citizens, the media, members of parliaments and Congress and other officials on radiation issues. She became a whistleblower in 1991 at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after witnessing fraud on the Yucca Mountain Project.

Leuren explained how these minute particles (nanoparticles) form and disperse into the world's atmosphere.

BombLeuren explains that uranium is a pyroforic metal, which means it burns and ignites at around 170c.When a uranium based weapon strikes its target it ignites into to fireball of around 5,000c. "The bullets and big calibre shells are actually on fire when they come out of the gun barrel because they are ignited by the friction in the gun barrel.

 

Seventy percent of the DU metal becomes a metal vapour. It's actually a radioactive gas weapon and a terrain contaminant". During this process large volumes of DU dust aerosols are formed.
Leuren went on to say "After forming microscopic and sub microscopic insoluble Uranium oxide particles on the battlefield, they remain suspended in air and travel around the earth as a radioactive component of atmospheric dust, contaminating the environment, indiscriminately killing, maiming and causing disease in all living things where rain, snow and moisture remove it from the atmosphere. Global radioactive contamination from atmospheric testing was the equivalent of 40,000 Hiroshima bombs, and still contaminates the atmosphere and lower orbital space today. The amount of low level radioactive pollution from depleted uranium released since 1991, is many times more (deposited internally in the body), than was released from atmospheric testing fallout."

In her summary she stated: "The fact is that the United States and its military partners have staged four nuclear wars, "slipping nukes under the wire" by using dirty bombs and dirty weapons in countries the US needs to control. Depleted uranium aerosols will permanently contaminate vast regions and slowly destroy the genetic future of populations living in those regions, where there are resources which the US must control, in order to establish and maintain American primacy".
Her conclusion was as follows: "Described as the Trojan Horse of nuclear war, depleted uranium is the weapon that keeps killing. The half-life of Uranium-238 is 4.5 billion years, the age of the earth. And, as Uranium-238 decays into daughter radioactive products, in four steps before turning into lead, it continues to release more radiation at each step. There is no way to turn it off, and there is no way to clean it up. It meets the US Government's own definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction."

Before we go into the consequences of uranium based weapons (as used by US, NATO and IDF forces) lets look at the total disregard that Israel shows towards regional health and the environment of the Eastern Mediterranean. Their tunnel vision does not take into account "what goes around comes around" and the pollution it creates comes back to haunt them including DU contamination, oil and sewerage pollution...

Lebanon-1This oil spill occurred in July 2006 as a result of an IAF missile attacks on fuel tanks at the Jiyeh power station 30 kilometres South of Beirut, causing the leakage of 12,000 to 15,000 tons of fuel oil into the Mediterranean Sea. Israel must understand that they are also part of this same eco-system and such toxins enter the food chain of the entire Eastern Mediterranean. This thoughtless act hit populations of dolphins and turtles etc.

It is also interesting to note that as a direct result of the continued occupation and blockade of Gaza the city can no longer treat its own sewerage. We now have a similar environmental disaster looming whereby raw thick sewerage is now entering the sea adjacent to Gaza.

If one can imagine the outflow from 1.5 million people we can better understand that this is an extremely serious situation. Seawater samples collected were polluted with faecal bacteria, specifically coli forms and streptococcus causing intestinal & infectious diseases, severe and potentially life-threatening diseases such as hepatitis, meningitis & a risk of cholera. The other issue that Israel would not wish to talk about is the fact that some uranium is passed in urine and further adds to the problem.

Again we see an identical situation developing where this outflow will make its way up the beaches of Israel and extend over its entire coastline. The Southern extremity of Israel will receive the highest concentrations especially the popular surfing beach at Ashkelon and Ashdod. The contamination will also extend up to Tel Aviv and Haifi in a more diluted form.

In the remainder of this article we will look at the fallout that occurred as a direct result of the attack on Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008/9 and how quickly these very fine particles spread in the immediate vicinity, cross border and beyond. We must also keep in mind that a significant amount of an aerosol ascends to many thousands of feet, after the initial explosion, riding on extremely hot convection current from the intense inferno at the target area.

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On the anniversary of the IDF bombing of the UN observation post at Khiam, Southern Lebanon I decided to map out a typical airflow pattern covering the Middle East and Europe.

Using Lebanon and Gaza as the target area I mapped out the main airflow tracks at three levels (low, mid and high levels winds). This information was obtained from standard sources as one would normally use when a pilot works out his flight plan.

The wind directions shown are only the main flow but obviously at all levels the particles will divert in all directions as they meet local vortices and pressure systems.

It must also be noted that the wind speed changes significantly at different levels with sometime strong winds at low level caused through coastal effects and convection currents and extremely strong upper level winds such as jet streams etc. Basically the nanoparticles divert almost everywhere and at all speeds around the globe.

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Extent of local initial fallout area

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This map shows a typical flow that I made up on the 25th of July 2009 on the anniversary of Khiam which was on the 25th of July 2006 (exactly three years)

We hear time and time again both during and after conflicts that the military forces concerned deny any usage of depleted or enriched uranium components in their weaponry. We find each and every time proof that their spin was incorrect when slowly but surely the evidence is found and the medical effects of these weapons starts to show up in the armed forces (Gulf War Syndrome) and in the innocent civilian populations.

Some so called expert or scientific correspondent will come out of their murky corner to denounce that weapons used in a particular conflict did not contain uranium components! Doesn't it always appear so strange that weapons manufacturers or component manufacturers sometime shoot themselves in the foot by printing the fact that a particular shell contains DU or a missile?

Let's look at two examples that I discover. I can assure you there are many more: MSC quote the following on their web "This now brings us to the use of Shape Charge Liners that are made from DU - . Shaped charges increase the power by focusing explosives in one direction e.g. by containing them with a conical liner. A wide variety of guided weapons use "shaped charge" technology. These range from Maverick and Hellfire missiles to torpedoes, sub-munitions in cluster bombs and the first stage of BROACH MWS.

The list of suspect US weapons is huge and given the fact that Israel has its own nuclear facilities one can only imagine what is going on behind closed doors!!ATK boldly show the following on their web:

120mm M829A1 APFSDS-T

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The same applies to the 120mm M829A3 APFSDS-T

Before I close Part 3 of this story I decided to speak with Leuren Moret and ask her a few questions on this very important issue to try and put everything into perspective in preparation for Part 4 which will cover all the many medical issues related to Depleted and Enriched Uranium. Whatever the spin we get from governments and the military we must all fully understand that the use of Dirty Missiles, Dirty Bombs, Dirty Shells and Dirty Bullets is high on the agenda and continue to be used as we speak. What is happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan right now is a re run of the Balkans and Iraq Wars....God knows how many will suffer under this terrible act against humankind. I again repeat that Israel must never be allowed to attack Iran. This is what the US wants and in doing so Israel will become the pawn for America with such catastrophic results. If one can imagine the radioactive fallout alone is beyond comprehension. Let's now finish with Leurens response to some questions.

I asked Leuren the following questions and her replies are shown as per below:

PE - As these nanoparticles move around the globe can you explain how they return to earth and how a human can become a victim and by what means?

LM - Once Uranium burns, it is a poison gas. Just like smoke rings that disappear in a room within minutes, these invisible dust particles of DU are bumped by air molecules which keep them suspended indefinitely and they begin dispersing locally in air. As the DU nanoparticles, which are atmospheric dust size particles of DU, are mobilized from the point source or bomb impact sites etc., they become part of weather systems and air masses in the Troposphere, and move very quickly in all directions from the conflict zone as the maps show. They quickly rise up to higher altitudes to become part of atmospheric dust clouds that travel long distances around the world and are completely mixed in the global atmosphere within one year. When moisture is present in the air masses, the DU particles become nucleating agents for water, and when they are heavy enough they drop from the sky as raindrops or fog or even attached to snowflakes - this is known as "rainout".

Because the DU is mostly confined to the Troposphere, the most dynamic part of the atmosphere, nearly all the DU particles are rained out in 2 months - causing a horrific global nuclear war in fact. As the rainout of these particles contaminates our biosphere, all living things are affected - the oceans, plants, animals, and especially humans who are more sensitive to radiation exposure than many animals. As the particles fall to the ground in rain, or are remobilized in dust storms in arid regions, they contaminate the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat. There is no longer anywhere on this planet where we can hide from the global nuclear genocide.


PE - When the particles enter the lower levels and enter our entire eco-system what happens to that contamination?

LM - The particles have surfaces that are wet and they stick to whatever they land on - rocks, sand, dirt, buildings, bodies of water, plants and leaves, skin - and they are nearly impossible to remove even with heavy scrubbing. As we breathe them, which is the most dangerous pathway into our bodies, they go directly into the blood from the lungs. The good thing about rainout is that they are removed from the atmosphere so they are no longer being inhaled. However they get into the groundwater and drinking water, and even at extremely low doses, environmental uranium causes infertility and reproductive cancers. As the environmental uranium moves through the biosphere, it degrades all living things, and the damage is cumulative and permanent.

PE - I have heard some terrible consequences in the animal kingdom can you explain?

LM - We know from studies in the coastal waters of the UK, Ireland, and Southern California offshore from two nuclear power plants, that fish populations exposed to Uranium and other radionuclide's have an expanding population of females and shrinking male populations. This is because the Uranium is an estrogen and hormone disruptor, and fish born as males soon turn into females. Scientists around the world are extremely concerned and are saying "It's all bad for the sperm". Male sperm in humans around the world has been reported to have 85% with damaged DNA, and only 15% with normal DNA. Sperm DNA damage and increasing infertility has been reported in Denmark in studies on young Danish males since 1991, before they enter the military. Female polar bears in the Arctic are now reported to have both male and female sexual organs, a result of the hormone and estrogen disruption. Of course this is all happening to humans as well since we share similar estrogen and the same hormones. That's why animal studies are so important; they tell us what we can expect as well from exposure to toxic substances. Otters in the Columbia River, downstream from the nuclear facility at Hanford, Washington, no longer know how to mate from the hormone disruption. Increasingly, people around the world now have to go to hospitals in order to have babies. "Wild reproduction" in humans is on the decline due to rapidly increasing global infertility - one of the so called "miracles" of the Nuclear Age. Now I understand why the two nuclear weapons labs where I worked in the US had huge posters on the walls with images of thousands of damaged and malformed sperm. It's a depopulation agenda through nuclear pollution.

Leuren will conclude Part 3 after I have given you some news I picked up:

Israeli sperm bank posts diminishing returns - (AFP) - May 11, 2009

JERUSALEM (AFP) - Wall Street giants are not the only banks hit by diminishing assets. New research for an Israeli sperm bank shows that depositors are 40 per cent less fertile than a decade ago, the Haaretz daily reported. Scientists at Hadassa hospital compared sperm taken from Israeli men between 2004 and 2008 with samples taken in the late 1990s, and were alarmed by their findings.


The more recent samples contained 40 per cent fewer sperm cells than those taken 10 years before. "It seems that the cause of the change is an increased concentration of oestrogen in the water supply," said Ronit Haimov-Kochman, who led the research. "The soil is saturated with oestrogen and fruit or vegetables grown in it are also contaminated," Haaretz quoted her as saying. Biologists found two years ago that male fish in an Israeli stream developed female characteristics after being exposed to oestrogen, but so far there is no sign of Israeli men suffering the same fate.

What goes around comes around. When will the Israelis understand that when you use depleted or enriched uranium (dirty weapons) you must fully understand that they are totally indiscriminate and therefore the aerosols drift back over the border to the place they call home!! (There's no place like home).

Leuren closes off this article with her view on the bigger picture:

"The big picture is that as the Weapons of Mass Destruction, developed for the international financiers and bankers, become more globally destructive, we are destroying the web of life that supports all living things. As the web of life is destroyed, a future for humanity disappears. The destruction of global DNA, the product of 4.5 billion years of earth history, has been carried out in the past 55 plus years - since Hiroshima and Nagasaki." "A Geology Professor told me when I expressed my concern years ago as a student, "Well, don't worry, after humans exterminate themselves, Mother Earth will heal itself."

- Peter Eyre, Middle East Consultant



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Nigel Lamb  - No evidence to support the use of DU in Gaza   |94.196.141.xxx |2009-08-09 06:59:02
Uranium ignites at about 3 times the temperature you state, if finely divided it can ignite at close
to room temperature. There is no evidence it has been used in shaped charged liners. A much smaller
fraction of the particles generated are 0.1 micron or smaller. These are not nuclear weapons, they
are weakly radioactive. But our planet is also weakly radioactive, uranium came from the earth and
goes back to the earth. There is no evidence IDF have used uranium weapons anywhere, just some
dubious and unsubstantiated claims by campaigners. There is no credible evidence of DU used in Gaza,
not even ICBUW believed that! “No evidence to support the use of DU in Gaza”. “To date, we
believe that there is still no compelling evidence to support the claim that Israel used uranium
weapons in the attack”.
Nigel Lamb  - what you have demonstrated is that a hypothetical   |94.196.141.xxx |2009-08-09 07:28:41
You have modeled a contaminant that never existed. Given a hypothetical amount, you have calculated
air concentrations less than one millionth of a billionth of a mass unit per meter cube. I’m going
to assume grams? The concentration of natural uranium in air is a few billionths of gram per meter
cube. So what you have demonstrated is that a hypothetical contaminant that never existed would be
dispersed to negligible concentrations. You forgot about washout, fallout and coagulation that
affect these hypothetical particles. Why chose that time window, seeing as you have no evidence
these munitions were ever deployed?
Nigel Lamb  - Geologists should be more aware than others of the   |94.196.141.xxx |2009-08-09 07:29:30
Could you point to some recent denial of use by the Americans, where any evidence proves otherwise?
Could you show me a link for you quote, which only by supposition hints DU could be used in
missiles. Leuren forgets the context of natural uranium in water, a few billionths of a gram per ml,
up to several hundred in some countries. The soil contains a few millionths of a gram per gram. Do
some maths and you’ll see the dispersion she relies on for transport dilutes this contamination to
the extent it is negligible. Geologists should be more aware than others of the natural background,
so when they fail to place things into context one has to question either there credentials or
honesty.
Nigel Lamb  - no other lifestyle changes over the last 40 years?   |94.196.141.xxx |2009-08-09 07:34:01
How do you connect DU to fertility, no other lifestyle changes over the last 40 years, everything
else unchanged? Are there any health effects you won’t claim are connected to DU. Last week it was
diabetes, which you slipped in without any substantiation, because there is none to be made. Still
no discussion of that idea, perhaps you could enlighten us in your next installment of propaganda.
Perhaps you’ll add some balance to your reporting, acknowledge that the wider scientific community
does not support these ideas, but then again pigs might fly.
Peter Eyre  - What NATO and the ICBUW have said   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-09 10:11:54
German Bundeswehr manual challenges US and UK denials over depleted uranium in Afghanistan. A
classified German Army manual has thrown doubt over US and UK assurances that no depleted uranium
munitions have been used in Afghanistan(21 July 2009 - ICBUW) + International Coalition to Ban
Uranium Weapons Leaked US Army Transport Letter Suggests DU in Afghanistan. A spokesman for the U.S.
military, Major Chris Belcher "We don't use depleted uranium in Afghanistan; we don't have a
requirement to use that"..Whilst on the subject of "pigs might fly" the flying pig
called the "Warthog" (A10) has been used extensively in Afghanistan both before Major
Belcher's statement and after so I guess that blows away his false statement.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.201.xxx |2009-08-09 18:19:06
Major Belcher went on to say: "I don't have any knowledge of what might have been used in 2001
and 2002. If there was an armour threat, the DU rounds would have been used to counter that
threat” [BBC 30/05/2008]. So perhaps that’s what the Germans took precautions against? Even your
contradiction is tenuous, and you took some liberty selecting his quote. The A10 can use DU or HE
rounds, the latter might be more relevant to later un-armoured threats. Still no connection with
Israel and Gaza.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.24.xxx |2009-08-09 18:03:05
So you evidence that Israelis used DU in Gaza is that the Americans may have used it in Afghanistan.
That is a bit tenuous for my liking. Besides the manual does not prove it was widely used in
Afghanistan, if at all, just that the German Army may have taken some precautionary measures.
Leuren Moret  - Populations Exposed to Environmental Uranium   |69.232.231.xxx |2009-08-09 20:37:51
POPULATIONS EXPOSED TO ENVIRONMENTAL URANIUM:
Increased Risk of Infertility and Reproductive
Cancers
http://www.namastepublishing.co.uk/Populat
ions%20Exposed%20to%20Enviromental%20Uranium.htm

Here is an in depth article with many references
that link environmental uranium to diabetes, heart disease, brain disease, pancreatic cancer,
infertility, reproductive cancers, and many other chronic illnesses that have greatly increased
since 1945 when the first atomic bombs were dropped on HIroshima and Nagasaki. Today is the
anniversary of the bombing of Nagasaki with a plutonium bomb... that energy from hell.

Nuclear
technologies are destroying the biosphere, humanity and all living things. There is plenty of
government research and sources that document world governments and international agencies as being
complicit in this global depopulation agenda. Sadly, Israel is destroying itself and its own
citizens with depleted uranium in...
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.116.xxx |2009-08-10 17:57:20
Leuren, that is one of the most shameful articles that I have ever seen. Is that seriously the best
you can do? Published in an alternative magazine, with the pretence of a serious and referenced
article. The majority of the references are to the grey literature – the dubious material that
doesn’t meet peer-review research standards. The few credible references that you cite appear to
be there for decoration of respectability – but add nothing to your arguments.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.116.xxx |2009-08-10 17:58:55
Regarding diabetes, you have presented not even attempted to show a casual relationship with
ionizing radiation. That is one of the worst abuses of statistics that I have ever witnessed, if you
had any academic affiliations you would be stripped of them. With no knowledge of the pre-1945 data
it is anyone’s guess when the trend started. You have ignored the scientific consensus for the
cause of the rise of diabetes. You have not attempted to account for the lifestyle and diet changes,
nor explained the context of the natural background radiation, which continues to account for the
majority of our exposure.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.116.xxx |2009-08-10 17:59:31
I am trying hard not to judge you as a person, but it difficult for me to understand you think such
poorly researched opinions should concern people that have suffered so much. Civilians in Gaza that
have experienced the horrors of war, to be told that an unproven and unlikely exposure could harm
them, without any basis. Soldiers with medically unexplained symptoms given false hope with
misinformation.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.116.xxx |2009-08-10 18:00:07
What is you motivation, I suspect it is not the money and ‘fame’ that drives some of the anti-DU
charlatans. Is it political, take down the establishment and the military complex by whatever means?
Nominally to help the people that your propaganda abuses? These people suffered war and you want to
abuse our sympathy for them for your own agenda.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.116.xxx |2009-08-10 18:00:55
I wanted to be respectful, for someone hailed as the DU expert. Perhaps this is a mistake, a false
link to an article posted to discredit you? Please even start to explain the Japanese pancreatic
cancer data, which miraculously kinks from a static baseline to an upward slope, how could that
possibly correlate to the spiky and minimal anthropogenic activity inputs? As a geologist how can
you ignore the natural background that provides the vast majority of our radiation exposure? Your
misrepresentation of the facts are either from ignorance or fraud. Which is to be? As declared
‘expert’ it is difficult to forgive your depravity.
theroyprocess  - Mr.   |70.190.189.xxx |2009-08-09 22:52:20
A Geiger counter reading reveals radiation. We all eat, drink
and breath radioactive fallout since
1945. There is no where to
hide and everyone's DNA is contaminated already!

All we can do now,
is minimize exposure to radiation, and
not add to our body burden with more nuclear power
plants.

All religions say...if you can't help...at least don't hurt. It is
hard to believe
people will contaminate the earth forever
with invisible, illegal depleted uranium! No one is
immune!
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.116.xxx |2009-08-10 18:10:23
Your world is and always has been radioactive. Most religions preach for truth, perhaps these
charlatans are preying on your faith?.
theroyprocess  - Mr.   |70.190.189.xxx |2009-08-11 11:31:34
Nigel Lamb,
Yes, It took billions of years for so-called (natural radiation)
to subside enough
and allow life on earth. Whether it is
natural or man-made, radiation is well known to be toxic
and
illegal under the Geneva Convention because it kills people
long after the war and it is
invisible!

Real science, like the force of gravity, exists regardless of
what we think or
believe. A correct Geiger counter reading
will reveal radiation to anyone!
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.21.xxx |2009-08-14 17:06:45
A correct Geiger counter reading will reveal the natural activity from the earth and the cosmos. It
will detect little from DU, which mainly emits alpha particles, to which it is not sensitive. You
are will not register a significant Geiger counter reading except at hit sites.
Life originated
shortly after the earth formed; there was almost twice as much uranium-238 then as there is now, and
a great deal more uranium-235. Life appears to have tolerated this enriched uranium. Unshielded open
nuclear reactors operated in the distant past, but life persisted, and eventually evolution created
us.
Peter Eyre  - DU Afghanistan   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-10 12:04:29
It is always the case that when someone stops using DU or it is found to be of concern that the
excuse is made that is was a precausionary measure. Basically it appeas that the DU armour that
surrounds you is starting to fall apart. So now we can ask the question that as DU was/is used in
Afghanistan and the fact it has a half life of 4.5 billion years it will never go away. It will
continue to contaminate US and NATO forces for as long as they are in situ...not forgetting the poor
innocent Afghans. How does this happen? In a hot dry environment it continues to re contaminate by
secondry contamination. If such a clever science reporter looks at the DU component manufactures web
pages. He will see that DU SCL's are fitted to Hellfire missles that are used extensively (around 12
units per Apache!!...that should do as a starter...but maybe your research capabilities are rather
limited.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.151.xxx |2009-08-11 14:59:43
As I've said before uranium came from the earth, it was decaying in the earth, it gets dispersed and
it continues to decay. 4.5 billion year sounds impressive, but if you use that argument lead
contamination persists forever. To be picky half of the uranium-238 remains after 4.5 billion years.
What you really need to show is that the levels people will be exposed to are significantly above
natural background, and I think your own modelling showed that was not the case. Then you need to
find some evidence of harm from those exposure levels. There are many variants of the Hellfire
missiles; I can see no mention of DU connected to them from a quick search. Which one contains DU,
and which variant is used in Afghanistan? But please do post a link (Manufacturing Sciences only
states that DU is under investigation for SCLs in missiles). I guess bad PR would be a good reason
for the army to drop DU from their arsenals.
Pierre Frankfurt  - Who is Nigel Lamb   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-13 02:53:38
Bonjour..I think you must belong to the Regev PR team..whoever you are you are a disgrace to your
country. Trying looking into the eyes of those that have suffered as a result of your safe? DU. We
can onlyhope and pray that it targets you one day....that will be poetic justice.
Mr Regev do us
all a favour and just go away with your propoganda machine....your recordings are very boring
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.251.xxx |2009-08-13 17:17:53
I’m just searching for the truth. What is disgraceful is that people would take advantage of the
humanitarian suffering of the Palestinians to push their propaganda. These activists present no
evidence to substantiate their claims, a substance that they cannot show has caused harm to anyone,
nor can demonstrate it was ever used in Gaza. I can only assume that they have the hidden agenda.
Peter Eyre  - Depleted Uranium   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-12 18:01:32
The notorius Science Correspondent is again showing a breakdown in his armour. First of all DU is
not natural in the earths crust it is man made and contains many other Isotopes as well as traces of
the deadly plotonium. Based on the fact that many experts repeat "that no level of uranium is
safe" then DU and EU comes into a totally different catogory.
You are supposed to be an expert
at research and I am not wasting my time looking up what you yourself and others can find for
themselves..however you can start with MSC who state that DU is used. I like your comments about bad
PR being a good reason for the army to drop DU...what spin!! Du is very much part of todays weaponry
along with other civilian applications...the nuclear industry want them to use it as it is become a
major problem for them to store "give it away and contaminate the world"..good concept hey?
Watch for my next two reports..especially number 5..you wan...
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.251.xxx |2009-08-13 17:51:28
Poor rhetoric Peter. Depleted uranium is just a modified form of natural uranium. It is marginally
less active than natural uranium, and a lot less active than natural uranium ores. Soil, water, air,
just about any environmental media contains trace amount of uranium. If no level of uranium is safe
then all ground water and mineral waters are unsafe? That is the reason the WHO haven’t set a
guideline for uranium in water, lots of supplies exceed ‘safe’ levels without causing
ill-health. Durakovic claimed one atom of DU was harmful, but all that did was prove that he is a
charlatan and not an expert. Plutonium is man-made, but it is in negligible quantities in DU, around
a part per billion. When context and data enter this debate the propaganda starts to deflate, which
is why the activists avoid presenting anything meaningful.
Nigel Lamb   |94.196.251.xxx |2009-08-13 17:57:46
You won’t waste time justifying your misleading claims? Presumably you researched them for your
articles. No? Oh, so you just took the word of some activists? The MSC site currently states only:
“Depleted uranium SCLs and EFP lenses are under investigation as a material for warhead
applications in missiles, ammunition and submunitions”. That does not prove your claim regarding
shaped charge liners in Hellfire missiles.
You threatened only 4 instalments of this propaganda,
you really want to subject readers to more baseless claims.
Pierre Frankfurt  - Responsible Thinking   |81.152.68.xxx |2009-08-15 02:58:49
The issue here is does DU pose a threat to world health?.
It is standard practice in H&S that if
there is an element of doubt dont use it. It would appear there has been alarming rises of cancers
and other medical conditions that generally could be as a result of radiation poisoning. This has
mainly shown up in those countries that have been at the receiving end of such weapons.If one was to
apply commercial H&S standards ie risk factors in such circumstances I can assure you that the use
of DU would be stopped. A Multi National Coorporation would not dare to take such risks but in this
case its ok for those that govern to do so. If Nigel Lamb was my companies H&S officer he would be
looking for another job. DU has become a major health issue and I am such that thousands of
sufferers around the world would like to meet Mr Lamb and thank him for his sincere compassion?
Paolo  - Nato handbook on the medical aspects of NBC defens   |87.10.240.xxx |2009-09-10 04:58:02
Nato handbook on the medical aspects of NBC defensive operations AmedP 6(B),
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/doctrine/dod/fm8 -9/1ch5.htm chapitre 506 «Alpha Radiation», The
energy of these relatively heavy, positively charged particles is fully absorbed within the first 20
micrometers of an exposed tissue mass. … If alpha emitting material is internally deposited, all
the radiation energy will be absorbed in a very small volume of tissue immediately surrounding each
particle. Alpha radiation has such limited penetrating ability that the maximum range for the
highest energy alpha particle in tissue is less than 100 micrometers. Thus, while extremely high
radiation doses may be deposited in the few cells immediately surrounding a source of alpha
radiation, regions outside this small irradiated spherical volume are not affected.
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